City of Mt. Vernon, Illinois

Special City Council Meeting

November 4, 2010

 

 

 

 

The Mt. Vernon City Council met for a Special City Council Meeting on Thursday, November 4, 2010 at 3:30 p.m. in the Rolland W. Lewis Community Building at Veterans Park.

 

Mayor Mary Jane Chesley called this Special City Council Meeting to order and stated that the purpose of this Special Meeting is for the First Reading of an Ordinance to Adopt Article 10A, The Housing Code For Non-Owner Occupied Dwellings. Mayor Chesley turned the meeting over to City Manager Ron Neibert.

 

Roll call showed present: Council Member Mary Burgan, Council Member Dennis McEnaney, Council Member Todd Piper, Council Member David Wood and Mayor Mary Jane Chesley.

 

City Manager Neibert stated that this is the Ordinance that the City has been working on for 9 months or so. There had been previous meetings held to discuss that there needed to be some type of regulations for rental properties. Mr. Neibert stated that there has been a committee working on this Ordinance for quite a while. Mr. Neibert introduced Mrs. Cindy Bevis to name the rest of the committee.  Mrs. Bevis stated that the committee consisted of Dorothy Wood, Myron Foley, Kitty Irvin, Chris Bean, Dennis Hoffmann, Scott Quinn, Luther Ganieany, Derrick Quitsch, Kevin Sargent, Ron Neibert, Mayor Chesley and Cindy Bevis. Mayor Chesley stated that Dennis McEnaney, David Wood and Todd Piper had rotated meetings so they could attend.

 

City Manager Ron Neibert stated that this Ordinance is proposed to address a number of situations in rentals. Mr. Neibert stated that in the City there are many substandard properties in the City. Mr. Neibert stated that in the last 10 years, the City has spent over $600,000.00 to demolish structures.  He stated that 80% of these demolitions had been rental properties. He stated that the City gets many complaints of properties, complaints of tenants living in substandard properties. The City’s ability to help to try to bring some of those properties up to living standards was extremely limited under the existing Ordinance.  The City could not inspect properties without probable cause and without permission of the

 

tenants, so they could help much. Staff feels that this Ordinance will accomplish the goal.

 

Assistant Fire Chief Kevin Sargent presented a power point presentation of a brief synopsis of the Ordinance. Mr. Sargent stated that the committee put the Ordinance together so we would not be going over it line by line. Mr. Sargent stated that these are home within the City of Mt. Vernon that are used as rentals and cannot claim the Homestead Exemption. The purpose of this Ordinance is to provide safety and general welfare to all of our citizens. This will also protect the character and stability of the neighborhoods in the City. 

 

Mr. Sargent stated that as of when the Ordinance goes into affect, owners will have one year to comply with the Ordinance. There will be a three (3) year inspection period and after the inspections the owner will be given a three year certificate of occupancy. That home will not be inspected again for three years. There will be penalties for violations found upon the inspections.

 

There will be no water allowed upon premises that cannot pass the inspections. This also allows for the City to discontinue water service for any violations. There can also be fines against properties that are non-compliant through the courts.

 

Mr. Sargent stated the benefits to the tenants. It provides for their safety and sanitary housing units.  Knowing that the residence that they live in is being held to a minimum standard and gives them the ability to know that their residence can be inspected either for a complaint and/or possible violations.

 

Mr. Sargent stated that some of the benefits to the owners are that they will have the ability to have written into the lease agreements the tenant responsibilities. They will also be able to use the Ordinance to be able to evict through the Court system any problem tenants. There will be a tracking system to be able to track bad tenants. There will be an owner list of all dwellings.

 

There will be benefits to the community such as to keep the properties up and maintain them on the tax roles and will lessen the burden to all tax payers.  It will help keep areas of the City from becoming run down and dilapidated.  It will help maintain cleanliness and trash conditions.

 

Mr. Sargent explained the fees for the inspections and how they will work and also the re-inspection fees. Mr. Sargent went over the entire inspection checklist.

 

Council Member Dennis McEnaney asked about the tracking system and if owners would be notified before the inspections are made.  Mr. Sargent stated that the owners would have a five day notice before the inspections are made.

Council Member David Wood asked about the court system being able to help with this because of the long backup of their schedules.  City Manager Ron Neibert stated that at least this will give the City a right of entry into some of the properties.  Council Member Wood also asked about the ability to turn off the water on renters.  City Manager Neibert stated that they will be given a 14 day notice.

 

Council Member Todd Piper asked about how the Ordinance was designed.  Mr. Neibert stated that this Ordinance came by Ordinances from several different cities, a compilation of their Ordinances into one final.

 

Council Member David Wood asked if the current Housing Ordinance was not being enforced.

 

Council Member Mary Burgan asked about the software for this.  Mr. Sargent stated that we have the software now in the firehouse software.  It just needs a little tweaking.

 

Council Member Todd Piper asked about the success of other communities that are doing this. City Manager Ron Neibert stated that the City of Woodriver has been the most successful in this type of program. Council Member Piper asked if the owner could still sell the property if there are violations.  They can sell the property, but they have to disclose any violations or problems.

 

Mayor Mary Jane Chesley opened the floor for the audience to speak.

 

Mrs. Rosemary Doty asked where the City was going to get the funds for the manpower it was going to take to do the inspections and make sure everything is done. City Manager Ron Neibert stated that by this not starting for one year and the three year period between inspections, the current staff will be able to handle all of the work.  Mrs. Doty spoke regarding the City alleys being grown up and trashy.  One of her tenants uses the alley for a driveway and there are so many mud holes in it.

 

Council Member Dennis McEnaney asked if we knew the total number of rental properties in the City.  City Manager Ron Neibert stated that there are 2,000 rental properties in the City.  If they inspect every three years, it would be 600 properties each year.  Council Member David Wood asked about trash violations in the City. Will the ability to turn off the water also work for trash violations.  City Manager Ron Neibert stated that it would if it is a rental unit

 

Madolyn Stribiling asked if the electrical would be checked to be sure it is up to code with these inspections.  She stated that in the older homes the wiring might not be rated high enough to carry all that is needed.  Kevin Sargent stated that yes, definitely the electric would be checked. Especially to be sure that it is graded high enough to not cause fires.  Ms. Stribiling asked about the sewer back up in a lot of the homes.  She stated that some of her properties have water in the basements a lot. City Manager Ron Neibert stated that people can put in what is called a backflow device that will help keep water from coming back into the homes. Council Member Todd Piper asked about low ceilings in a home.  Mr. Sargent stated that if the ceilings are low, if they build on, the new ceilings have to be certain heights.  Council Member Mary Burgan asked about the sewer backup for clarification.

 

Charles Jones (Mr. Woo) addressed Council regarding how long it takes a landlord to get a renter out of their properties.  He realizes that that is a court problem, but with the court we are looking at at least 90 days. City Manager Ron Neibert stated that this will only help as much as we can with that problem.  Mr. Jones asked about ‘contract for deed’ properties. He stated that he has sold property on contracts.  Mr. Neibert stated that the contract for deed buyer is the responsible party. Mr. Jones stated that he thinks this Ordinance is too much too fast.  It will put burdens on property owners and tenants. He is afraid that the City is going to run a lot of older, poor people out. He spoke regarding the newer homes built by large companies that rented to the worst renters that they could. He said to look at the conditions of those houses now.

 

Mr. Dante Moore stated that he too wants to speak about the homes built in town by the two large out of town companies and the condition of them. Will they be made to comply with all of these rules also and fined.  City Manager Ron Neibert stated that part of their agreements is that they must have a representative within the City, so yes they will have to comply also.

 

Mr. Kyle Minor spoke regarding the inspections of the homes. He asked how many new inspectors would have to be hired to do this job and how long it would take to do one inspection. City Manager Ron Neibert stated that the three inspectors that are currently City employees would be able to do all of the inspections.  He stated that they should be able to do one inspection in 1 ½ to 2 hours. Mr. Minor asked if this program was going to make taxes increase.

 

Mrs. Lisa Jones spoke regarding the fact that they own some 60 rental units.  The child proof locks on cabinets alone would cost them $1,200.00 to do. She stated that the Comprehensive Plan states that there are 3,700 rental units in the City.  They rent their units for $350.00 to $600.00 per month which includes water, sewer and trash. They rent to as low income people that they can rent to. It is all that the renters can do to pay their rent. It takes Mrs. Jones all month to collect the rent from most of them. The rents are all due on the first of the month. A lot of the renters say things like, I can’t pay all of it on the first, and so they drag it out the whole month and pay a little each week. Then it’s time again for another month. She also works with renters on their security deposits. The renters cannot handle any more expenses.  They are maxed out with the economy the way it is. 

 

It is such a struggle for them. With the State not paying their bills to people that they owe.  Mrs. Jones stated that it also takes all month long for them to repair what is torn up in the rentals.  They tear it up and they fix it, they tear it up and they fix it. That is how it goes all month long. The last thing needed is the City coming in and telling everyone how to run their business. The owners do not need any more burdens either. When people leave their rentals they leave anything they don’t want, furniture, debris, trash and anything. They have bought a truck to haul away all of the stuff left behind.  Now there is nowhere in the City to be able to take this stuff to dump and they have to go clear to Fairfield to dump it.  City Manager Ron Neibert stated that she could call the trash haulers and they would bring a dumpster to them or come haul off the debris. Mrs. Jones asked how much they would charge for that.  Mr. Neibert stated that she would have to check with them.  She stated that it costs them about $100.00 for each trip to Fairfield and she has gotten a dumpster before and they charged around $300.00 to haul it off. Mrs. Jones stated that she and others in attendance feel that this ordinance will not help the landlords or the tenants. It will just put the squeeze on the landlords to put the squeeze on the tenants more.  It will make more stress for the landlords. Mrs. Jones spoke regarding the emphasis on cosmetic things.

 

Dorothy Wood addressed Council stating that she did sit on the committee along with other realtors, landlords etc. but she wanted to clarify that when you read the article in the paper it sounded like they were all together with all that this Ordinance said. That was not the case, she stated that they were all there to listen to and defend a position. The City is working to try to clean up properties. She asked for each Council Member and everyone in attendance to take the Ordinance and read it page by page. She felt that a lot of what you see in the Ordinance is not what the City means.  She spoke regarding a letter to a client that gave them 14 days to repair everything that needed to be done before a foreclosure or the City would demolish the structure. When asked about it, the City said well we don’t mean 14 days, that is just a notice. She stated that other paragraphs in the ordinance need to be cleared up also. If that’s not what you mean, say what you do mean. She mentioned a part in the Ordinance about selling your property. Under transfer of ownership she stated it was unlawful to sell, etc. if there are any inspection violations. She said again that the Ordinance is not clear on a lot of issues.  Kevin Sargent stated that they discussed these things in the committee meetings and it is all about non-owner occupied homes. If the property is sold to someone that wants to live in it, rather than rent it, this Ordinance does not apply. Mrs. Wood stated that the ordinance jumps around too much and needs clarification. She stated that she bets that a home today in Mt. Vernon, even owner occupied, would not meet these inspections. Mrs. Wood stated that she believes that this Ordinance discriminates against certain homeowners. And it will make people not want to own rental properties in this town.

 

Ms. Kitty Irvin of Tanglewood Apartments spoke regarding a portion that required deadbolt locks on all of the doors. She stated that she would be making keys and installing locks all of the time.  She already has 3 or 4 keys to each unit because they all have two doors for entry. She stated that a lot of her units are for elderly renters so she needs to be able to have entry also in case of emergencies without breaking the doors. Ms. Irvin stated that most people don’t even have deadbolts on their doors at home.  She feels this upgrade is too much to ask and would like to have it deleted.

 

Madelyn Stribiling spoke again saying that asked if the Certificate of Occupancy is good for three years.  She was answered yes.

 

Mr. Sam Totten asked if there were no tenants on the committee. Cindy Bevis stated that they asked for some, but none of them came forward. He also asked about the deadbolt locks. He also spoke about his having a building with 4 tenants and if we shut off one property’s water they are all shut off.

 

Scott Clifton spoke regarding wet basements, lead paint and fires. 

 

Bernadine Canfield spoke about the locks.  She said people will just kick the door in.  She has had to replace several doors on her mobile home rentals and they cost $500.00 each.  She spoke regarding the medicine cabinet lock ups.

 

Lyle Wood spoke regarding sewage in basements around town. Council Member David Wood stated that the City is working on replacing many of the old sewers in town, but it will take a while.  It’s not a one week fix.  Mr. Wood also spoke regarding reasonable locks, not necessarily dead bolts.

 

Council Member Mary Burgan spoke regarding her owning rentals herself and how the rentals were before she purchased it.  She stated that she got fleas herself while cleaning out the building, shoveled human feces out of the house and many other things. People should not have to live that way, regardless of how poor they are.

 

Council Member David Wood spoke regarding property values and how they are affecting other homes in the areas. We are trying not to be unusually burdensome on the owners, but something must be done. 

 

ADJOURNMENT

 

Motion by Council Member Todd Piper to adjourn this Special Meeting.  Second by Council Member David Wood.  Yeas: Burgan, McEnaney, Piper, Wood and Chesley.